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	<title>Comments on: Divination in the Old Testament</title>
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		<title>By: Barbara White</title>
		<link>http://freelancetheology.com/2009/09/20/divination-in-the-old-testament/comment-page-1/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 05:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bible says &quot;seek and you will find&quot; so I will prayerfully and diligently search for an answer and the promise is that I will find it. Will let you know where all this leads me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bible says &#8220;seek and you will find&#8221; so I will prayerfully and diligently search for an answer and the promise is that I will find it. Will let you know where all this leads me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon the freelance theologian</title>
		<link>http://freelancetheology.com/2009/09/20/divination-in-the-old-testament/comment-page-1/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon the freelance theologian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be the challenge. The prescriptions against sorcery were precisely for that reason - following the &#039;guidance&#039; of something other than God tokk glory away from God i.e. they were idolatry.

As to what influences the pendulum, many people would be sceptical that anything exerted an influence. Some Christians would no doubt ascribe a negative spiritual influence of some sort, because that&#039;s often the sort of thing that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be the challenge. The prescriptions against sorcery were precisely for that reason &#8211; following the &#8216;guidance&#8217; of something other than God tokk glory away from God i.e. they were idolatry.</p>
<p>As to what influences the pendulum, many people would be sceptical that anything exerted an influence. Some Christians would no doubt ascribe a negative spiritual influence of some sort, because that&#8217;s often the sort of thing that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comments. I am a christian and certainly do not want to do the wrong thing or be associated with the occult. I considered using the pendulum in this way in a similar way to urim and thummim, I guess and do not in any way want to take the glory away from God. I suppose the real answers needed is from where does the pendulum get its knowlege/what power moves it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments. I am a christian and certainly do not want to do the wrong thing or be associated with the occult. I considered using the pendulum in this way in a similar way to urim and thummim, I guess and do not in any way want to take the glory away from God. I suppose the real answers needed is from where does the pendulum get its knowlege/what power moves it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon the freelance theologian</title>
		<link>http://freelancetheology.com/2009/09/20/divination-in-the-old-testament/comment-page-1/#comment-1205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon the freelance theologian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the Old Testament texts, I think the prohibition on divination would cover that sort of thing too. In a sense, seeking otherwise unknowable information, whether about the future or about other aspects of good fortune like favourable planting conditions, is precisely what the writers were describing. The theological reason behind the prohibition  (trusting in God rather than human &#039;wisdom&#039;) would be consistent.

Having said that, many of the prohibitions against &#039;magic&#039; were culture-specific in a world that was often dominated by shamans and magicians. Much of the tribal religion around the Hebrews while in exile, and later the nation of Israel, was oriented towards magical religious practices. 

Things are different these days. However there is still an aversion among Christians to practices like this because it seems occult, which conflicts with the idea of only worshipping or giving glory to God. (Although whether you could use a pendulum in a similar way to the urim and thummim or how lots were cast to divine God&#039;s will in the Old Testament is worth thinking about.)

I&#039;m not sure how effective using a pendulum in your gardening is. I don&#039;t know anyone who prays before planting, but I guess there probably are some who feel &#039;guided&#039; to plant certain plants in certain places. Certainly Jesus used plants in his parables a few times. Maybe there&#039;s scope for an article on Bible-inspired gardening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the Old Testament texts, I think the prohibition on divination would cover that sort of thing too. In a sense, seeking otherwise unknowable information, whether about the future or about other aspects of good fortune like favourable planting conditions, is precisely what the writers were describing. The theological reason behind the prohibition  (trusting in God rather than human &#8216;wisdom&#8217;) would be consistent.</p>
<p>Having said that, many of the prohibitions against &#8216;magic&#8217; were culture-specific in a world that was often dominated by shamans and magicians. Much of the tribal religion around the Hebrews while in exile, and later the nation of Israel, was oriented towards magical religious practices. </p>
<p>Things are different these days. However there is still an aversion among Christians to practices like this because it seems occult, which conflicts with the idea of only worshipping or giving glory to God. (Although whether you could use a pendulum in a similar way to the urim and thummim or how lots were cast to divine God&#8217;s will in the Old Testament is worth thinking about.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how effective using a pendulum in your gardening is. I don&#8217;t know anyone who prays before planting, but I guess there probably are some who feel &#8216;guided&#8217; to plant certain plants in certain places. Certainly Jesus used plants in his parables a few times. Maybe there&#8217;s scope for an article on Bible-inspired gardening.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara White</title>
		<link>http://freelancetheology.com/2009/09/20/divination-in-the-old-testament/comment-page-1/#comment-1137</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about usaing a pendulum to dowse. Not asking about the future, but simple physical things like does this plant need such and such a mineral, should I plant it here etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about usaing a pendulum to dowse. Not asking about the future, but simple physical things like does this plant need such and such a mineral, should I plant it here etc</p>
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