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		<title>Further comments on Todd Bentley&#8217;s theology</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In July 2008, an article was posted on freelance theology relating to the popular (and controversial) American preacher Todd Bentley. At the time, ‘revivalist’ meetings in Lakeland, Florida were being televised regularly in the UK on Christian cable channel GodTV, and both the preacher and his message were the subject of much debate in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In July 2008, an article was posted on freelance theology relating to the <strong>popular (and controversial) American preacher Todd Bentley</strong>. At the time, ‘revivalist’ meetings in Lakeland, Florida were being televised regularly in the UK on Christian cable channel GodTV, and both the preacher and his message were the subject of much debate in the Christian press.</p>
<p>However, since then there have been two significant developments. The main one as far as many commentators are concerned is a very <strong>public scandal</strong>.But from a theological point of view, there have been events as well. <span id="more-197"></span></p>
<p><strong>An unfolding story</strong><br />
The conclusion of the previous freelance theology article was: “<em><strong>Todd Bentley, and his ministry, may well have a long-lasting effect on people’s lives; those who are less-than-convinced may well want to wait and see.</strong></em>” <a href="http://freelancetheology.com/2008/07/12/the-florida-revival-and-todd-bentleys-teaching/">Read the rest of the article here >>>>></a></p>
<p>The scandal, as slowly revealed in the Christian press was that Bentley, it appears, developed a relationship with a member of his ministry team. He has subsequently divorced his wife and married the woman he had the affair with. He has been publicly rebuked for adultery by the organisation he headed up, Fresh Fire Ministries, who have ‘severed ties’ with him. He is currently being mentored through a ‘restoration process’, overseen by several high profile American pastors, although exact details of what that process is have not been made clear.</p>
<p>These sad facts will inevitably colour the views of people when discussing his ministry. Those who were ‘less-than-convinced’ have already found in those events enough ammunition to destroy Todd Bentley’s credibility. Those who hoped his unorthodox teaching style heralded a <strong>much wider revival </strong>may have had their faith in church leaders shaken.</p>
<p><strong>RT Kendall&#8217;s critical assessment of Lakeland</strong><br />
In October 2008, <strong>before</strong> the news about Bentley’s indiscretions broke, noted evangelical preacher and teacher <strong>RT Kendall</strong> sent an open letter to several high profile Christian newspapers and magazines expressing grave concerns with Bentley’s theology. Kendall’s criticisms were published in Christianity magazine in the UK, without editorial comment, as well as across several other media. His article is also available to read on his website. <em>1</em></p>
<p>Kendall lists <strong>three main theological objections</strong> to Todd Bentley’s teaching and ministry, namely:</p>
<blockquote><p>“First, never once have I heard a clear message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ from the Lakeland platform – except when a guest speaker did it. Second, when people were being baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and ‘Bam – bam’, it both trivialized the Trinity and baptism itself. This is serious, serious trivializing. Third, if you were to ask how much a fear of God and conviction of sin emanated from these services – on a scale of 1 to 100 – I would say zero.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Kendall initially condemned the events of 1994-5, often referred to as the ‘Toronto Blessing’, only to publicly change his view and affirm it as genuinely being ‘of God’. Of the events in Lakeland, he says: <em>“I tried very, very hard to support this strange move, especially when some of my closest friends were endorsing it and urging me to do the same.”</em></p>
<p>However, Kendall says he felt unable to support it. He represents, quite fairly, a <strong>scepticism at the somewhat extravagant claims</strong> made by the team in Lakeland. For example, he notes that:<em> “At last count there were 37 resurrections from the dead. If only one of them had a coroner’s death certificate it would be a very serious matter to say that what was going on there was not of God.” </em></p>
<p><strong>Lacking evidence</strong><br />
Although a comment like this may appear facetious, it does represent a problem with a lack of evidence. Kendall is not a cynic, but anyone who is a cynic could reasonably make the demand that if you’re claiming to raise people from the dead, you really ought to have proof that they were dead. Using such claims as <strong>evidence of anointing</strong> does put the onus on <strong>actually having the evidence</strong>.</p>
<p>Kendall goes on to criticise the lack of gospel preaching in Bentley’s ministry, saying: </p>
<blockquote><p>“Preaching itself in Lakeland has been minimal, and what preaching there has been calls more attention to angels, miracles and manifestations than to Jesus who died on the cross… When one is reported to have been to the Third Heaven (as the main evangelist of Lakeland has stated) and told not to preach Jesus (because everybody knows about him) but rather angels (which people know little about), I can only call this ‘another gospel’ as in Galatians 1. I would go to the stake for the Gospel of salvation which Paul preached &#8211; that emphasizes reliance solely in the precious blood of Christ. I would certainly not go to the stake for the Lakeland message – and would be afraid to face God if I did.”2</p></blockquote>
<p>It’s worth remembering that these theological criticisms were made <em>before</em> the news broke of Todd Bentley’s affair and estrangement from his first wife, which does maybe make them more valid than the many critical comments made after Bentley’s behaviour was made public.  </p>
<p><strong>A problem in the Christian culture?</strong><br />
Bentley is currently undergoing ‘restoration’, presumably with a view to resuming ministry at soem point. One online commentator claims this &#8216;restoration&#8217; illustrates the <em>“fundamental weakness in our freestyle approach to &#8220;restoring&#8221; fallen leaders” </em>which shows <em>“we charismatics still seem to have a habit of elevating gifting above character. It&#8217;s almost as if the end justifies the means. (So what if a preacher ruins one marriage and makes a hasty decision to marry a younger woman &#8211; the important thing is that we get him back in the pulpit to heal the sick!)”</em><em>3</em> This criticism is less of Bentley, but rather of a church culture that values <strong>&#8216;manifestations&#8217; and quirky happenings</strong> above genuine theological reflection and wisdom.</p>
<p>Whether Bentley returns to public ministry or not, it appears he will still have profound theological questions to resolve relating to his teaching and ministry. Those who are currently unconvinced by either his theology or his actions may be hard to win over.</p>
<p><strong>Notes and references</strong><br />
1 – The article ‘Lakeland’ by RT Kendall can be found at <a href="http://www.rtkendallministries.com/ ">http://www.rtkendallministries.com/ </a>(note no direct hyperlink available)<br />
2 – The passing reference to Galatians is probably Galatians chapter 1, verses 6-9, particularly verse 8: <em>“But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!”</em><br />
3- These comments were made by J. Lee Grady, editor of <em>Charisma</em> magazine, in an article called ‘The Tragic Scandal of Greasy Grace’. It can be read online at <a href="http://www.newchristian.org.uk/lakeland.html">http://www.newchristian.org.uk/lakeland.html</a> </p>
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		<title>The Florida Revival and Todd Bentley&#8217;s teaching</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question 140, from Mark, United Kingdom

Any thoughts on the latest &#8217;so called&#8217; healing revival in Florida
I googled Todd Bentley and read and saw some worrying things, some are saying this is a false move as we are warned about in Matthew chapter 24, verse 24.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question 140, from Mark, United Kingdom<br />
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Any thoughts on the latest &#8217;so called&#8217; healing revival in Florida</p>
<p>I googled Todd Bentley and read and saw some worrying things, some are saying this is a false move as we are warned about in Matthew chapter 24, verse 24.<br />
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For those who don’t know, Todd Bentley is a Florida-based preacher who has recently been attracting much attention amid claims of <strong>dramatic spiritual manifestations, healings and angelic visitations</strong>. Recently Bentley’s ‘revival meetings’ have been broadcast in the United Kingdom on religious cable channels, and clips are also available on internet sites such as Youtube.</p>
<p>Naturally, in any situation where things appear to happen outside normal experience, questions are asked. Specifically, in this case, is this a revival? And, if not, is this the kind of <strong>deception foretold by Jesus</strong> in Matthew chapter 24, verse 24? (<em>“For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.”</em>)</p>
<p>Some of the concerns raised about Bentley’s actions include, in no particular order:<br />
~ The <strong>methodology used in ‘healings’</strong>, which includes physical impacts, such as punching and kicking<br />
~ <strong>Association with a number of high-profile ‘prophets’</strong>, including some who were integral members of the group called the Kansas City Prophets in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The ministry and theology of some of the Kansas City Prophets has often been questioned, and there have been several accusations relating to “moral failure” (a eupehemism for sexual indiscretions).<br />
~ <strong>Appeals for money/financial support</strong>, often with an attached promise of blessing on those who give money<br />
~ An emphasis on <strong>angelic visitations</strong>, particularly with regard to <strong>“financial angels”</strong> </p>
<p>In the United Kingdom, the questions being asked about Todd Bentley’s ministry has provoked a response from the <strong>Evangelical Alliance</strong>, in the form of an open letter from director Joel Edwards. The solution the EA put forward is for people to <strong>‘wait and see’ </strong>what the long-term effects of Bentley’s ministry will be[1].<br />
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The EA invoke the example of <strong>Gamaliel</strong>, a member of the Jewish Sanhedrin in Acts chapter 5. He encourages the Sanhedrin not to persecute the apostles Peter and John, saying:<em> “if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.&#8221; </em>(verses 38-39) [2]</p>
<p>However, the ‘wait and see’ approach isn’t always possible when people are getting excited about “a potential move of God”. In the New Testament, the newly-formed Christian churches are encouraged to practice <strong>“discernment”</strong> of prophecies and other supernatural events[3].</p>
<p>In it’s open letter, the EA actually restates the five litmus tests put forward by the great New England Puritan teacher <strong>Jonathan Edwards</strong> (1703-58), who was involved in a well-known revival in the eighteenth century. The five criteria Edwards used to determine whether something was truly “of God” were:<br />
- Does it raise people’s estimation of Jesus Christ?<br />
- Does it operate against the interests of Satan?<br />
- Does it lead to a greater regard for Scripture and truth?<br />
- Does it result in a greater awareness of and seriousness about the things of God?<br />
- Does it lead to a greater love for God, for other Christians and for the wider world?</p>
<p>It is perfectly legitimate, and in fact a <strong>Biblical imperative</strong>, for Christians to question the validity of any claims made of prophecy or supernatural activity. (To use a more Biblical metaphor, to ask: ‘what are the fruits of this?’)</p>
<p><strong>Violent healing</strong><br />
In the case of healing, it has been known for those practicing Christian healing to use <strong>seemingly violent actions</strong> to impart healing. The nineteenth century healer <strong>Smith Wigglesworth</strong> (1859-1947) is recorded having slapped, and on at least one occasion, punching a person who needed to be healed. However, these incidents were exceptional to his normal practice.</p>
<p>In the case of modern-day claims of healing, one means of discernment is to ask for <strong>medical proof</strong>, although a person asking for it may find themselves abused for lacking faith. However, external medical proof for healings is a New Testament principle. For example, in the gospel account of ten lepers being healed, Jesus performs the miracle, then sends the newly-cleansed lepers to show themselves to a <strong>neutral authority</strong> (the priests), so they can declare that the miracle has happened[4].</p>
<p><strong>Guilt by association</strong><br />
The most controversial associate of Todd Bentley’s is Bob Jones, a one-time member of the Kansas City Prophets. Jones was later attached to John Wimber’s Anaheim Vineyard, but was asked to leave after allegations involving sexual misconduct[5]. Of course, there is an issue of criticising someone on the basis of their associates – it is what the Pharisees repeatedly did to Jesus, after all![6]</p>
<p>However, given the negative publicity surrounding the high profile ‘TV Evangelists’, and ‘prophets’, who Bentley seems to consider important, there is a question of discernment relating to Bentley’s relationships. Specifically, what is he basing his theology, his interpretation of the Bible, and his understanding of God on? If he is simply appropriating questionable theology, and in the case of Bob Jones, many people would say he is, then <strong>Bentley’s own discernment</strong> is open to question.</p>
<p><strong>Cultural religion?</strong><br />
There is certainly a cultural acceptance within North American ‘revivalist’ practice towards appealing for money. Criticisms of the way money is asked for often revolve around ‘blessings’ which are promised in return. Most of the time, these ‘blessings’ are some form of future financial recompense. [<em>Read more about this in the freelance theology article</em> <a href="http://freelancetheology.com/2008/07/12/prospering-being-blessed/#more-187">Prosperity &#038; Being Blessed</a>]</p>
<p>This effectively turns Christian giving into a form of investment portfolio, and is quite clearly contrary to the New Testament. Luke chapter 6 includes the following instructions from Jesus to his disciples:<br />
<em>“And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even &#8217;sinners&#8217; lend to &#8217;sinners,&#8217; expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great,” (verses 34-35)</em><br />
However, the promised reward is not financial, or even necessarily to be received in this life. </p>
<p>A second aspect of cultural conditioning on Bentley’s ministry is the h<strong>uge emphasis on angels</strong>, including a ‘guiding angel’ called “Emma” (who also apparently appeared to Bob Jones), and ‘financial angels’ which gather money to aid Bentley’s ministry. The angelology explored by Bentley has little, if any, root in the Bible, although it does seem to reflect the medieval developed angelologies of Christian and Jewish tradition, particularly in terms of angels (and demons) being in control of <strong>certain geographical locations</strong> [7].</p>
<p>Angel visitations are also key aspects of the<strong> Latter Day Saints movement</strong> (Mormonism), which is based around angelic visitation, previously unknown revelations, and encounters with resurrected Biblical characters. Just like LDS founder and chief prophet Joseph Smith and his compatriots met with characters such as John the Baptist[8], Bentley also claims to have <strong>talked with the Apostle Paul</strong>[9]. </p>
<p>In terms of the emphasis on angels and meeting long-dead Biblical characters, it would seem the cultural impression made by Mormonism is having an impact on Christian culture. Claims of angels dispensing special revelations are <strong>not</strong> a new phenomenon in North America, and that perhaps need to be borne in mind when analysing the stories relating to angels which seem to be promoted by Todd Bentley and his colleagues.</p>
<p><strong>Grace abounding</strong><br />
Finally, it’s worth noting that while Christians are encouraged to be <strong>discerning</strong>, there is also a case for being <strong>gracious</strong>. In his favour, Todd Bentley does try and answer several questions and accusations which are thrown at him[10]. Todd Bentley, and his ministry, may well have a long-lasting effect on people’s lives; those who are less-than-convinced may well want to wait and see. </p>
<p><em>[1] The open letter from the EA can be read at <a href="http://www.eauk.org/media/florida.cfm">http://www.eauk.org/media/florida.cfm</a><br />
[2] In Acts chapter 22, verse 3, when Paul is arrested in the Temple, he tells his accusers that he was ‘taught under’ Gamaliel prior to his conversion.<br />
[3] See, e.g. 1 Corinthians chapter 14, verse 29: “Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said.”; and 1 John chapter 4, verse 1: “do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,”<br />
[4] Luke chapter 17, verses 11-19<br />
[5] In John Wimber – The Way it Was [Hodder &#038; Stoughton,1999] John’s widow Carol, comments “Bob Jones’ eccentricities were merely charming to us rather than alarming, as maybe they should have been.&#8221; (p.179) and mentions that “[John] tried to discipline Bob Jones” (p.181)<br />
[6] See, e.g. Matthew chapter 11, verse 19.<br />
[7] See Bentley’s article &#8216;Angelic Hosts&#8217;, written in 2003. It can be read online at <a href="http://www.etpv.org/2003/angho.html ">http://www.etpv.org/2003/angho.html </a>The references to geographical angels are in part 1. The financial angels are mentioned in Part 3.<br />
[8] There’s a statue in Temple Square, Salt Lake City, commemorating this. I saw it when I was over there about a month ago – Jon (FT editor)<br />
[9] See &#8216;A Face To Face Encounter &#8211; Part 2 of 2&#8242; &#8211; By Todd Bentley, cited by Andrew Strom on Charismamag Online Forums, and elsewhere. On Todd’s MySpace page (<a href="http://www.myspaceprofiles.org/profiles/78175403.html">http://www.myspaceprofiles.org/profiles/78175403.html</a>), he says he’d like “More face to face encounters with Jesus, King David, Paul the Apostle”. Caveat: this might be a joke, remember to be discerning &#8211; Jon (FT editor)<br />
[10] Can be read online at <a href="http://www.freshfire.ca/?Id=1059&#038;pid=993">http://www.freshfire.ca/?Id=1059&#038;pid=993</a><br />
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